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I know that the Gaiman "word of God" on Dream of the Endless's romantic history is, "He has had many more lovers than the ones we see" with regards to Killalla, Alianora, Nada, Calliope, and Thessaly (ugh) and as someone who will absolutely incorporate word-of-god canon , it's the height of hypocrisy to just dismiss this.
And I will accept that probably Dream has had some sexual encounters outside those five canonical relationships, like the implied Lucifer and Titania flings.
But I just can't escape the sense that the whole, "Oh yeah, he's had tons of other lovers like, just loads of them, believe me, the dude is definitely not billions of years old and only had a half dozen romantic encounters all of which ended in tears, that would be crazy, right??" is just more... something a dude would say about their super cool dude character?
Because I personally like to, in this one instance, rigidly stick to canon as we see it on the page. And that canon is: Dream was deeply lonely and never even officially hit a half-dozen long-term lovers in his life and he only married once. He is a divorcee and he is sad and he is lonely and he would love to find someone to be with and be in a relationship and just continuously eluded him. And our evidence for this? The Wake.
We have some of Dream's past lovers show up at the Wake. Bastet specifically notes that they could have been lovers, probably should have been, but it never happened. Titania implies a relationship but won't say anything more and obviously it was not long-lasting romantically speaking, whatever it was.
But basically, if we take the Wake as an on-the-page canonical account of the living beings who were Dream's lovers and who had enough of a connection to actually show up, it's still a depressingly small number for so long a life, for a character who is defined by his romanticism and loneliness. Even if we say, give or take, there might have been a few more, none of those after Nada could be mortal, so we can't just say they're all dead. That means the other immortal lovers either didn't show up or didn't bother to speak. And sure, if there's other immortals in the mix, sure, we could "Doylist" say the comic just doesn't have room for them all but really, to me, the more compelling take is... there just weren't that many for Dream, and that it's deeply sad. Some of it was, yes, his own fault, probably a lot of it. But it's still sad.
And more importantly, it's a more interesting character. Anyone can say their stupidly powerful godlike character who is beautiful and magical and can craft dreams and stories and is this Byronic hero of poetry and darkness is also someone who had a bunch of romantic partners and can definitely hook up with anyone he wants, psshh, obviously but... a character who is all those things and can't get this one major part of their life together to the extent that he's demonstrated to want a loving partner which he is repeatedly shown to want, is just... it's a certain kind of unique for that character and I'm here for it.
#the sandman#sandman meta#dream of the endless#and this is why i ship him with Hob as a soulmate lol#because I'm also a romantic#and I like to believe there is someone out there for him in the most unlikely of places#and by unlikely I mean MOST LIKELY OF PLACES Dream he's YOUR BEST FRIEND#WHAT DO YOU THINK A RELATIONSHIP IS?? EXCEPT A PERSON YOU LIKE TO SPEND TIME WITH THE MOST??#anyway Dream upsets me lol look at his life look at his choices I want to hit him with a baguette
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MDZS x Brazil (1985)
(Yes. Real movie dialogue)
#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#MDZS AU#lan wangji#wei wuxian#Backstory to this is 'we recently watched Brazil (1985) and this scene make us lose our minds.'#Brazil (1985) is best described as 'The Monty Python Crew does an adaptation of George Orwell's 1984 (1949).' Because it is.#And let me just say. I think it is the perfect adaptation. Somehow this film manages to be one of the best dystopia satires out there#While also being a genuine critique of capitalism and burocracy.#Plus the practical effects and set design were outstanding.#The 'romance' in this movie was definitely also a satire.#It is unbelievably wacky. I'm dead serious when I say this comic is beat for beat something that happens in the film#Guy who told this women *nothing* about the peril she's in form the government tells her he (legally) killed her.#She responds by saying âCare for a little necrophilia?â with NO ROMANTIC LEAD UP.#THE MUSIC SWELLS. HE TEARS OFF HIS JACKET AND DIVES INTO THE BED. SCENE END.#Jill Leyton has incredible range as a hot butch and hot femme. Was the line bizarre? Yes. She can pull it off though.#We paused and watched it back a few times. I wasn't intending to make a crossover this obscure but honestly...#It's...it's too good of a fit to pass up. Wei Wuxian *would* say that...
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Cringetober Day 1. Screenshot Redraw
inspired by this early eah scene where raven "lets her bad side out" playing guitar and my cousin and I go "apple's probably losing it" and then they cut to her and she's making this face â
#starting off cringetober strong with day 1 on day 4 lol#I'm gonna steamroll through 2 and 3 today (and I have 4 unposted from last year so that's convenient)#prompt months are a good excuse to a draw bunch of media But last week my cousin and I rewatched some eah (my first time since high school)#so it's in my brain right now anyway :)#ever after high#eah#raven queen#apple white#rapple#tagging rapple because I made this with rapple intent but technically this is literally just what happened LOL#I Still feel like I didn't push her expression quite a far as they did but you can look at the screenshot. she's sooo funny she's so#unsubtle#this also started out as a meme redraw can you guess the meme#huge shoutout to the heart card in the bg looking like a deliberate choice on my part to make this look romantic#september 2024#(yes I did start this a little early)#cringetober 2024
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@bsdfanweek's skk Valentine's week day 2: Camellias and Floral Troubles
Dazai's love life is so hard. This is in reference to my recent skk post!
#weep for dazai he's trying really hard#they're still settling in their new relationship#enjoy my monstrosity of cursive and capital letters for maximum drama and lisibility#my cursive is rusty and i'm not convinced all of you can even read cursive in the first place#bsd#bungo stray dogs#bungou stray dogs#bsd fanart#skk#soukoku#i'm playing the romantic skk up because it's valentine's day week#when ironically it is very much almost aro week. but most of my stuff falls in the ambiguous category the rest of the year jshdgfsjhfg#also without remi i could not have come up with a corny one-liner so thank you very much
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last two episodes like
Charlie made a deal with Alastor VINEBOOM Alastor verbally confirmed asexual in the show VINEBOOM Vaggie has wings VINEBOOM Alastor could see himself getting attached to all of them VINEBOOM Vox is hard for Alastor??? Vineboom??? Pentious kissed then died VINEBOOM Lucifer is here VINEBOOM Alastor is missing VINEBOOM Adam is dead VINEBOOM Vox is still abnormal about Alastor VINEBOOM Alastor is back and desperate to get out of his deal VINEBOOM PENTIOUS GOT REDEEMED AND LILITH IS IN HEAVEN VINEBOOM VINEBOOM VINEBOOM
#:v#hazbin hotel#the finale was really good#genuinely won be over with this show#alastor#hazbin hotel spoilers#charlie morningstar#sir pentious#Also I would argue he got confirmed aroace because Rosie wasn't talking about sex she was talking about romantic relationships in that scen#either way I'm thrilled this is a win for the asexuals I love my unhinged aroace crazy crazy deer man#his bit in the finale song gave him so much depth đ love him đ«¶đ«¶#if anyone wants to talk abt hazbin... My dms and asks are opennnnn đ«¶đ«¶đ«¶ peace and love
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I do not ship Shirley and Jeff, but I do think it's deeply strange that they never get together in the show. Basically every other combination happens at some point (Jeff/Britta, Jeff/Annie, Annie/Troy, Annie/Abed, Troy/Britta, arguably Troy/Abed). Everyone other than Pierce has at least two romantic subplots with somebody else in the group, and Shirley gets what, Chang and Andre? Bullshit. She and Jeff have a great dynamic and they're the same age, I see no reason for them to not get at least an episode long subplot. It would be more compelling than half the other ships on that show, plus it might finally give Shirley some spotlight.
#including troy/abed is me being a trobed shipper but also just because the show literally calls them boyfriends sometimes#and there are plots which revolve around troy caring more deeply for abed than for his actual girlfriend#plus they literally had a love confession#and i know that âi love youâ can be platonic but abed responded with han solo's 100% romantic love confession which is far more damning#i dunno i'm just pissed that shirley never gets the same attention as the other characters#shirley bennett you will always be famous to me#nbc community#community#community tv show#shirley bennett#jeff winger#idk if they have a ship name so i guess i'm not tagging it
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Listen. I know most of the earlier one piece movies aren't really canon, but I am obsessed with the implications of Saga in the Cursed Holy Sword, because he really adds a layer to Zoro's relationships with his rivals.
Okay. First, there's Kuina. His first rival. The one he can never beat. The promise to become the greatest. Untouchable, indestructible, until she isn't. Wado Ichimonji.
Then there's Saga. His next rival. They're more equally balanced. They're both orphans. There's an understanding there. A more even footing that he didn't have with Kuina. A gifted short sword instead of an inherited katana.
And Sanji. The proof of Zoro's rule of three. Twice over, in fact, third rival, third son. Never gives Zoro an inch in a fight, but doesn't hesitate to give him food afterwards. He doesn't fight with a sword, so there's no blade shared between them. Instead there's a much heavier promise.
Kuina dies. Saga dies. Both so close to Zoro, and he couldn't even do anything. Of course Zoro's worried when Sanji boards the sea train by himself. Of course he pushes Sanji out of the way at Thriller Bark. Of course he's angry with Sanji when he runs off to Whole Cake.
Zoro's already mourned his first two best friends rivals. Does he really have to go through that again?
Maybe Kuina wouldn't have fallen if Zoro had never asked her to fight him. Maybe if Zoro had been a little better he could have saved Saga. Maybe Zoro will have to kill Sanji himself.
#one piece#roronoa zoro#cursed holy sword#zosan#<- it doesn't have to be romantic. but i'm just tagging it anyway#black leg sanji#one piece kuina#one piece saga#<- is that kuina's proper tag? does saga even have a tag? he should I'm obsessed with him#also saga was zoro's first love sorry I don't make the rules#this isn't quite the analysis I set out to make but it's what I ended up with#anyway. if you haven't watched one piece movie 5 you should. i'm obsessed with it#i should write a fic about Zoro and Kuina and Saga and Sanji because the three of them are giving Zoro so much survivor's guilt
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as much as it's sometimes funny to call arthur and john homoerotic i really genuinely appreciate that their relationship is entirely platonic like. they're friends :] they're buddies :D they've gone through so much together and time and time again they choose to call each other their friend..... it's very sweet
#me gritting my teeth knowing there will be many shippy posts after this episode: god i love these best friends#no hate to shippers ofc i just don't see them like that#and i'm thankful their relationship won't ever be romantic in canon#malevolent#like john calls arthur his friend in this episode and i smiled like a dorkus because#that's his buddy!!!!! that's his best friend arthur lester!!!!!#malevolent spoilers#just a little but whatever#also arthur lester is aromantic. to me.#in the way that i am (romance repulsed) to me....#but EVEN IF HE WASN'T........#friends :]
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When I say Tyland Lannister is my favorite character...
I am being 100% dead serious. Here is why I prefer this seemingly average nobleman over the many many many fan favorites in Fire and Blood.
Tyland Lannister is a second son in a story about second sons. Whether his feelings on this are as strong as Aemond's or Daemon's, we never know for sure in the books, but it's obvious that he's subservient to a mirror image of himself who only has more authority because of a few seconds separation between twins. It's a great display of both the arbitrariness and rigidity of succession.
His initial role in the Dance is as the master of coin for the greens. He's depicted as a typical Lannister: charming, comely, and cunning. He did what any savvy accountant would do and divided the crown's treasury amongst different allied regions for safe-keeping, ensuring that if King's Landing were sacked, their enemies wouldn't loot their coffers dry and they'd still have plenty of gold for their war efforts.
And of course, King's Landing gets sacked. Tyland is put in the black cells and ordered to be tortured by Rhaenyra to extract the gold's whereabouts. Winter is coming, people are starving and rioting, her army is dwindling, so she desperately needs that gold. Tyland is gelded, maimed, disfigured, and blinded but the torturers get nothing out of him.
Mind you, this man has been a rich, pampered bureaucrat all his life and he endured all that without breaking. When Aegon II releases Tyland from those cells, he has no fingernails, his eyes have been gouged out and/or sewn shut, this man who was once known for his good looks doesn't look human anymore â but he still manages to maintain his wits so much so that he plays an important role after the Dance.
Even with Rhaenyra dead, there are still armies raising their banners for her eldest surviving son, Aegon Trois. Tyland tells Adult Aegon to kill Child Aegon because obviously, the latter threatens the former's claim and Tyland's understandably angry over what his mom did. Aegon Dos is like, nah, I'll keep the boy hostage instead â that'll keep the armies at bay more than outright killing him.
So Tyland volunteers to go to Myr to hire sellswords for Aegon 2 since their armies are pretty much kaput after six years of this civil war. Tyland is blind at this point I remind you â there is a huge chance this man will never get to go home again. But he does it anyway, because even after years of fighting, he keeps his unwavering loyalty to the monarch he declared for.
Aegon II dies while Tyland is in Myr, and Tyland goes back to Westeros just in time to see Cregan Stark use his powers as the new Hand to marry Aegon III and Princess Jaehaera to unite the green and black sides. Cregan dusts off his hands, says my work here is done, warns the boy king not to trust anyone, then leaves for the North for everyone else to sort this mess out.
Now comes the part where Tyland shines as a character. He becomes the Hand of Aegon III and when you see his policies detailed in the book, it's clear that his goal is focused on repairs and renumerations. After what happened to him, he has every right to be spiteful and bitter against the blacks, but instead he "claimed a curious failure of memory, insisting that he could not recall who had been black and who had been green." He abolished the heavy taxes imposed on the smallfolk, sent out gold to lords whose holdings had been devastated during war, and set out to rebuild the Realm's granaries and fleet. Cleaning up is a tedious, unglamorous job â and because of his monstrous appearance and former allegiances, Tyland was looked upon with distrust.
And yet, while other regents grasped for power and tried taking advantage of the 13-year-old King Aegon III, Tyland seemed to be different. If he wanted power he could have married his twin brother's widow and convinced the boy-king to route more resources towards Casterly Rock and the Westerlands. But he didn't.
Instead, he genuinely seemed to be a father figure to Aegon III.
Tyland Lannister, blind and crippled, had always treated the king with deference, speaking to him gently, seeking to guide rather than command.
And for that, many lords saw him as a weak Hand. But Aegon, who cared for very little and never laughed and was always sullen, seemed to care for Tyland.
When the plague ravaged King's Landing, Tyland dutifully prioritized it over quashing the Ironborn raids at Lannisport. He was the last person to become afflicted with the Winter Fever, and the king sat by his Hand's side during his final hours. When the council starts discussing who should be the new Hand, Aegon (the boy who rarely ever speaks) says:
I would have Lord Rowan as my Hand. Ser Tyland thought well enough of him to offer him my sisterâs hand in marriage, so I know he can be trusted.
This boy trusted Tyland, the man who only years ago wanted him dead.
So it's easy to imagine that this man saw Aegon III as the boy he was responsible for, as the son he could never have because of what the war had done to him. Tyland Lannister was a broken man who despite losing everything, his king and his brother and himself, kept a broken Realm and broken boy together when everyone else swarmed like vultures just trying to pick at carcasses.
What motivated this man's loyalty for a boy whose mother mutilated him? Did he regret pushing for the death of an innocent child and this was his penance? Did this man who gave everything for his cause think that this boy was something that could still give all that sacrifice and tragedy meaning? Was the mercy and kindness he afforded an apology for the horrifying trauma that scarred this boy â did he feel responsible for his mother's downfall and the failure to save his uncle? Did his disfigurement and blindness allow him to let go of the man he once was and become someone capable of seeing the folly of pride and power?
Here is his obituary in Fire and Blood:
Ser Tyland Lannister had never been beloved. After the death of Queen Rhaenyra, he had urged Aegon II to put her son Aegon to death as well, and certain blacks hated him for that. Yet after the death of Aegon II, he had remained to serve Aegon III, and certain greens hated him for that. Coming second from his motherâs womb, a few heartbeats after his twin brother, Jason, had denied him the glory of lordship and the gold of Casterly Rock, leaving him to make his own place in the world. Ser Tyland never married nor fathered children, so there were few to mourn him when he was carried off. The veil he wore to conceal his disfigured face gave rise to the tale that the visage underneath was monstrous and evil. Some called him craven for keeping Westeros out of the Daughtersâ War and doing so little to curb the Greyjoys in the west. By moving three-quarters of the Crownâs gold from Kingâs Landing whilst Aegon IIâs master of coin, Tyland Lannister had sown the seeds of Queen Rhaenyraâs downfall, a stroke of cunning that would in the end cost him his eyes, ears, and health, and cost the queen her throne and her very life. Yet it must be said that he served Rhaenyraâs son well and faithfully as Hand.
Tyland wasn't extraordinarily badass, noble, or even skilled. He was an excellent politician but no way the best. But I think that's what makes him compelling to me â that he's this down-to-earth depiction of a POW, a war veteran by all accounts, trying to pick up the pieces and slowly glue what remains of the Realm and himself back into something vaguely human.
We tell so many stories about the glory, the tragedy, and the losses of war. But I think it's important and beautiful to tell stories of those bravely and optimistically choosing to keep living in the aftermath as well.
#house of the dragon#hotd#a song of ice and fire#long post#hotd spoilers#hotd meta#I'm a sucker for redemption/second chance stories#your life has been reduced to ashes and you are the shell of the man you once were#but goddamn you will try to do something good with all that remains of you#you can still make good#tyland lannister#there's an argument to be made that rhaenyra could have won the war if it weren't for tyland#I wish Tyland was a popular character but that won't happen unless he becomes part of a popular ship#Cregan is also interesting handsome and nuanced but he gets more love because he has multiple ship options#Tyland could possibly have romantic chemistry with Aegon II or Rhaenyra that would be cool
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there should be something like the bechdel test but instead of assessing if people can talk about women without mentioning men is if people can talk about characters without mentioning ships because so many people would fail miserably
#i'm so tired of seeing the same two ships being mentioned#when one of your favourite characters is popular but 99% of the content is people claiming everything they do is because they're#romantically interested in someone else to the point of stripping layers of their character </3#like. maybe sometimes people have a personality đ#also why is everything romantic!!!! i'm so tired *aroace and fuck amatonormativity beams* đ€#or *normal beam* actually
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sometimes being aroacespec is confusing. what do you mean, most people can tell the difference between platonic and romantic and sexual attraction? what do you mean people don't "choose" crushes? what do you mean that people can imagine themselves in a physical situation with someone else?? isn't dating just Friendship Plus??? hell, isn't marriage just Friendship Plus?????????
what do they mean??????????? what are feelings???? why am i so confused????????
*edit: changed "aroace" to "aroacespec", since several aromantic people felt that this was not an Aromantic Feeling. i see you, i hear you, and so i changed it to be more accurate to me personally, since i am Confused About Feelings Always
#void keith talks#aroace#aromantic#asexual#aro#ace#aromantic asexual#i'm so confused as an autistic aroace person#about every emotion i have about another person ever#and i also read a lot of romance so like. i know what romance is *supposed* to look like#i know the ideal and the not ideal#but i have no idea about any sort of romantic social cues irl#because i'm bad with social cues. i miss them a lot or i misinterpret them#i'm good with body language because i was taught a lot of it early#but social cues are different and some change over time which is INCREDIBLY confusing#and also like? i don't feel stable enough or mentally healthy enough to be in a relationship#i feel like it would be unfair for a potential partner(s) for them to be in a relationship with me#because i just Don't Have My Shit Together. like at all#i Only Like Fictional People That Way#fictoromantic#lgbt#lgbtq#lgbt+#lgbtq+#lgbtqia#lgbtqia+#arospec#aromantic spectrum#aroacespec
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Honestly it's kinda funny how big part of the fandom believes in loser Sanji and rizzer Zoro as if Sanji didn't pulled 2 girls in his introduction Arc (in front of their dates too lol) and Zoro pulled 1 girl in entirity of the canon if I remember correctly
In Zoro's defence may be that he doesn't exactly try + baths once a week but still, canon lol
#and yeah I think both Baratie Arc girls would go out with him if asked#many girls enjoy Sanji and his attention#even mermaids loved him#even if they arent interested in him romantically/sexually they still like him#and I think that alone is enough for him to not be a loser lol#it's not a Zoro hate post to be clear#one piece#black leg sanji#roronoa zoro#sleep deprived post#<I may be foregtting something obvious#may talkin shit#<also because of sleep deprivation#I'm tired af rn lol#Zosan#Sanzo#<because made after reading fanfic so it applies I think?
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Normal Friend Behaviour.
[First] Prev <â-> Next
#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#lan wangji#lan xichen#Ring ring! It's your judgment call! None of the lan brothers are there to pick it up!#Lan Xichen is so openly like 'I trust Jin Guangyao so much! Our bond is so deep! I believe in him like you believe in wwx!'#The tension! I remember not knowing how this would go because woagh the red flags for betrayal were so strong here.#Now I have spoiler brain so I mostly see the heartbreak coming but I still remember the anxiety of thinking lxc would betray lwj.#The way LXC compares his relationship to JGY is so funny to me. They aren't technically canon but...like....come on.#LXC *also* lets on that he knows LWJ has feelings for WWX. The implications are the loudest subtext I have seen.#Personally I see it as romantically one-sided on LXCs side. I think JGY knows and LXC denies his heart.#I think the tragedy is that JGY can't move past his need to make everything a game of chess to see LXC as more than an oppertunity#Here's the bigger tragedy: The one time he followed his heart...it led him to Qin-Su. Whom he loved dearly!#but...oh god was that ever a massive disaster that must have been internalized as 'following my heart is a mistake I can never make again.'#Ah - Happy Puffy Sleeves WWX debut day! We finally made it!#I'm personally a fan of the happy accident of WWX having white sleeves for this arc B*)
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i am so charmed by a lumax wedding because itâs not even something max thought would happen. like she assumed weddings were something the girl makes happen and the guy puts up with. and because she had no desire for one, so thereâs no reason it would happen.
among other things weddings are an exorbitant and performative show of love, max loves lucas and she doesnât care whether or not other people know or believe this. at itâs best marriage to her has been a representation of failed dreams and at itâs worst itâs been a tool to manipulate people who need to get away to stay. maybe they will get married for the tax benefits, she thinks.
this is until max and lucas are older and living together, theyâre chilling on the couch and lucas mentions his family has been asking when heâs planning to propose and if thatâs something max even wants? max doesnât care, she doesnât plan on going anywhere, a certificate wonât change anything and she's not crazy about parties. she doesnât ask how he feels, he brings it up, that âactually i want a wedding.â
that is saying the least, lucas wants a wedding more than anything. he loves max and he doesnât need to prove that to anyone, but heâs happy and he wants to share that with others! he wants to work with max to make marriage a positive thing to them, he wants to celebrate their love, everything theyâve been through. also, hell, heâs only human, he wants to show off! he wants to dress really cool and go to a really cool place and show the world know how awesome he and his girlfriend are. HIS WIFE!!!
most of all, lucas wants the moment near the end of the night, where the partyâs getting loud and everybody wants his attention, but max asks if he wants to get out of there and he says yes. not out out, just outside the venue. itâs dark and the once booming music is now faint, they sit and catch up, complain about their families, laugh about their friends. max holds lucasâs hand and plays with his wedding ring, she whispers something sweet before asking him to dance. itâs the best part of the night and nobody will know about it but them.
suddenly max decides she wants a wedding.
#lumax#max mayfield#lucas sinclair#stranger things#to be clear i think it isn't really that max becomes excited for a wedding - i think it's more that she is incredibly touched by what it#means to lucas and wants to give that to him#i don't think she would ever be crazy about all that attention on her but she loves that it makes lucas happy and loves how much he cares#about her#and i also think lucas is aware of this. he loves weddings and the idea of being married is romantic and beautiful to him and he loves that#max understands where he's coming from and feels loved by his explination but also he knows it's something he will enjoy more and that's ok#lucas would be a very good wedding planner#also they would have this discussion then formulate oppisite plans catering to the other's love language#lucas would be like 'i'm gonna do something so private and sweet for max to propose' and max would be like 'i am going to go all out in#public to propose' and luckily max gets to hers first because it was way harder to do#nonetheless i am being cheesy ignore me
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I've been stuck on viewing Maggie as Crowley's mirror, and for most of the show I like that interpretation. But once I started thinking of Nina as Crowley's Mirror in the ball scene specifically, I made a connection....
Aziraphale is playing God here. He has a vision- a happy romantic evening where people speak Victorian English, dress nicely, dance, and fall in love -and he wills everyone present to conform to his plan. But Nina doesn't conform. Nina feels like something isn't right. She asks questions.
She asks Aziraphale what's going on, why she doesn't feel sad when she knows she's sad, and Aziraphale doesn't give her a satisfactory answer. He tells her that the important thing is that she's here. She's here to play a role in his great plan. To dance in his ball.
So she expresses her concerns to Maggie. Maggie hadn't seen the issues at first, but she listens to Nina, and Nina gets her to acknowledge the absurdity of the situation just a little bit. Listen to their conversation at the dance again. It sounds SO MUCH like the conversations we've heard Crowley and Aziraphale have a thousand times during their 6000 year dance. Crowley calling out heaven, asking questions, trying to get Aziraphale to consider the absurdity of it all. Aziraphale mostly defending heaven, but listening, and sometimes acquiescing.
And this all falls in line with a point I've made before - In season 2, Crowley's relationship with Aziraphale begins to mirror his relationship with heaven. Aziraphale shows a pattern of not listening to Crowley the whole season, but especially in this scene. Crowley tries to ask him what is going on, and alert him to very real danger, but Aziraphale is dismissive. He is blinded by his desire to see his plan to fruition.
And just so we're clear, this is not an Aziraphale hate post. Rather, I think it might give us some insight into where God is coming from. Because Aziraphale's actions may be dismissive and controlling, but they are motivated by love. Misguided, certainly, but with all the best intentions. I have a feeling, when we finally meet God, it will be a similar story. And maybe both She and Aziraphale will learn that sometimes to love means to let go.
#keeping this post short because if I think about it too much I'm going to make myself sick#like how Maggie and Nina's conversation happens while dancing#and aziraphale and crowley have been having that same conversation and doing the same dance for 6000 years#it's so romantic and heartbreaking and poetic I think I might actually die#Also... think about how Lindsey broke up with Nina right before this scene#kind of like how heaven broke up with Crowley before the earth began fuck fuck fuk#and then Crowley yells at Nina to trust someone for once in her life like...#he knows nothing about her he's projecting SO HARD#good omens#good omens 2#good omens season 2#gos2#good omens meta#ineffable husbands#aziraphale#aziraphale x crowley#crowley#crowley x arizaphale#aziracrow#neil gaiman#go2#maggie and nina#reposting slightly edited because I made a mistake the first time#thank you @tip-top-tickety-boo for pointing it out!
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I feel like. HEA isn't too out of character for the smitten or princess tbh, and it feels like a very natural endpoint for the Damsel. I'm gonna. Ramble about it a lot below the cut
The smitten is blind to her flaws, single-minded, and obsessive. Even before the pristine cut all these traits were present. He never saw issue with the grey burning us alive. He never saw any issue with the razor cutting us to bits. He never took any issue with the deconstructed damsel, who existed as a two-dimensional cutout of a person that refused to have her own will and seemingly only existed for us. That's not really a healthy way to think of someone you love, I think. Which isn't to say there aren't chapters where the smitten does genuinely love the princess. The damsel just... doesn't strike me as one of them.
And the princess forgives the player so easily because the shifting mound is as we percieve her. In the damsel, we saw her as a loving being who would do anything for us, and in the chapter before, we refused to listen to the narrator's warnings(blinding ourselves to her flaws, creating the smitten). That perception becomes cemented into her nature. In the adversary, we had seen her as a capable fighter who we were evenly matched with, so that perception becomes part of her. This is how the princess is, as a narrative device and a character. There's a reason we get to the shifting mound by interacting with a mirror. She reflects what we see in her, and we see what she reflects, and that cycle goes around getting amplified every time. Every chapter is the last pushed to the extreme. The cage is the most extreme form of the prisoner, the apotheosis the most extreme evolution of the tower... she always amplifies what we see her as. And in the Damsel, we saw her as forgiving, loving; and willing to do anything for us.
Tbh I found the Damsel to be a very uncanny and uncomfortable chapter from the start, long before the pristine cut was released and even without having gotten the deconstructed ending myself. The Damsel was never romantic to me, she was always uncomfortable and jarring, because I know what it's like to be in her place, having to abandon my own autonomy and will to appease people just to survive. And I know what it's like to be loved by someone who takes no issue with me lacking autonomy, too.
At the start of the Damsel, she's still chained up. Her freedom is in our hands. She forgives us for the stabbing attempt in the damsel, and that becomes amplified. She loves us despite her lack of autonomy in the Damsel, and that gets amplified too. Even in the damsel, even after we bring her out of the cabin, she still is bound to our will for the few seconds before the world ends, because we still have the blade and still could kill her. HEA feels to me like where the Damsel was always going to end up, a natural continuation of how uncomfortable and uneasy the "romantic" parts of the Damsel were.
#the pristine cut#long post I'm aware but I love talking#and I genuinely love HEA. i think the dancing is a +2 bonus not because it's âromanticâ but because it's finally HER choice#maybe if I ever had seen the Damsel as romantic I'd think differently. but the Damsel never seemed romantic to me#the âromanticâ parts of the Damsel honestly make me more uncomfortable for uneasy than the parts of STP that are supposed to scare you#slay the princess#slay the princess spoilers#stp happily ever after#I'm also well aware âthe damsel isnt romanticâ is probably a bold fuckin take but idc. I do genuinely think that
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